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listen up brother we got

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the ultimate warrior here today

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wrestlemania

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so we're gonna bring it the energy and

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all our ultim

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ultimate warrior maniacs okay i'm going

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to give up on that

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but we have a fantastic

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fantastic guest today uh who i am very

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excited to have on he was one of my

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first guests if you haven't heard it

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um i do something called like a one on

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one with jazz shaw

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um where i interview him over the phone

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and stuff and i throw some dolphins in

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the videos

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and all that so it's pretty it's pretty

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neat you should definitely check it out

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um and with so much going on right now

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i figured it would be best

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to bring jazz in and kind of tell us the

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lowdown give us his idea of what's

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because you know we gotta bring the

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smart people in

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jesus how's it going

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so we're gonna have a great guest and

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smart person so who's the guest

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i'm the guest you're the smart person oh

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okay great

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that's good yeah nice to be back you

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see you i think last time we just did an

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yeah but i really like how the intro of

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the show came out by the way he did a

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good job with that

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oh really thank you very much um yeah i

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put that together like five minutes

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so great oh thank you very much

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um so

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you were on unidentified celebrity

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review yesterday

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uh you kind of touched on the story that

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a little bit uh with the japan airliner

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um i guess what was it about that story

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really inspired you to write it

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well it was there wasn't any more than

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anything else i mean

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uh i've always been aware of it i've

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liked that incident

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uh it's very famous it's fascinating

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but the only reason i wouldn't have

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written anything about it if it weren't

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for the fact that

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john greenwald at the black vault after

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17 years of trying

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finally uncovered the entire faa package

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of data from the investigation that was

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conducted

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into that event gigantic package

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and he dropped it about a week ago and i

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spent days going through

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all that stuff and by the time i was

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done i realized the story

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in my opinion was not really the way

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it's traditionally been portrayed in all

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the tv shows and

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podcasts that have covered to it covered

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it and that there was more and less to

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the story than met the eye

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which ways are in which ways is it

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um for those not familiar like i'll be

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very familiar with that case but i'm

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so and there's a lot

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so um you know can you do a quick some

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not a synopsis of it and what the

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you know what they were doing incorrect

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when they were publicizing it

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yeah sure uh we can do that if you like

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1986 november i don't have the date

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right in front of me

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uh this japan airlines flight uh was

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it was a cargo plane uh that was flying

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yeah the pilot suddenly started radioing

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saying asking if there was other traffic

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air traffic in his area because he was

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and they said no there's nobody else

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pretty soon he reports that the lights

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over to the left of his plane are kind

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permission to

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change altitude to change heading to

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presumably avoid a collision and they do

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give that permission

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and then those two lights apparently

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behind his plane now chasing him but not

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massively giant and it continues

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until uh it eventually goes away as he

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and on comes for an uneventful landing

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the case was interesting because it's

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cargo plane but there were two other

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uh a recording and a transcript of the

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recording of all the chatter that was

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going on between the pilot

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in the tower a controller at the tower

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and yet another tower in fairbanks

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um and there's all this conversation

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going on and eventually

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before they land two other planes

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another commercial plane and a military

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plane are diverted

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and sent over to come within iran

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you know eyesight range of the plane

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nobody else sees

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the objects not the first two not

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the giant one behind them um

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and and that's where problems come with

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if you have the full transcript of that

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chatter and you read through it closely

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a lot of things don't really add up um

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there were five different radars that

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were checking to look to see who the

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visitors that

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were in the nearby airspace were

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three of them didn't see it at all no

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military radar said they were getting

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what looked like some

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scat they got something close to the

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plane but it looked sort of like scatter

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radar at the air traffic control tower

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in anchorage

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did register a target in the vicinity

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uh for about five minutes out of this

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long encounter yeah that is first five

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minutes they had something

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so the radar data was very inconsistent

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a lot of things were strange when

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this ended uh gave testimony as part of

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an investigation

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uh that testimony was recorded that was

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released in the package also the

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tran the english version of the

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testimony that they gave um

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as i said the uh the transcript of of

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and the radar data was in there and was

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and so that's a lot of stuff to put

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but this the stories of the other two

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they really didn't line up with what the

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pilot said very well at all

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uh like he was describing the the two

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lights in front

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and then to the side as being

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definitely crap don't want to say craft

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objects of some kind he was describing

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what it looked like both of the other

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two guys said they saw lights

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and one of them the person

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an actual vehicle he's like no because

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did they look like they could be stars

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could be you know so that's a big

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you know right there there was a number

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of things like that

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it's a really interesting encounter

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story it's become legendary

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they generally seem to cherry pick the

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and don't really pay as much attention

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and now we have a more complete picture

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of it and that's why i wanted to write

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about it because

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there's there's a lot of questions

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remaining i think yeah

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it i wonder sometimes though if some of

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experiences where you know there's

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different accounts

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some people who see this stuff just

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they just brush it under the rug maybe

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yeah it could be stars i don't know i

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don't want to talk about it

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well that's another possibility isn't it

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we're talking back in the 80s before

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this era of kind of openness that we

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have now long before that

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the two other crew members they were

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younger they were closer to the

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beginning of their career

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and talking about ufos when you worked

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for the airlines

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that could be the end of your career

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you'd be sent from a mentally vental and

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and you could be gone

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for all we know they said that because

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they didn't want to

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say anything about ufos to an

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interviewer because they might be afraid

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of losing their jobs we don't know

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right you know so it was a long time ago

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yeah and that's kind of the

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frustrating case with the frustrating

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part about almost every case

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is there's stuff that really supports it

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and then there's something that maybe

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you know and the longer ago it is the

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more stuff fades into history documents

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get lost

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people just develop perceptions and

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start repeating things they think they

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even maybe if that wasn't the actual

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story good point you know

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i'm sure i've done that you know because

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especially depending on who it comes

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notable that you would think would have

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all the information

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and you start repeating their story and

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maybe they got it wrong

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well you know humans aren't perfect i

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guess um

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what what boat are you on as far as

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the the evidence that we know of that's

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come out this year

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like are you sold on that or are you

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something put in the water to confuse

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people or maybe

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get us excited and i mean just to be

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honest i'm talking about the core bell

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stuff

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um oh the two videos that he put out

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we've had time to sit on it now

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and i'm curious if anyone's kind of

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changed their opinion or anything

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i haven't changed my opinion much the

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pentagon came out

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and uh yeah you know said

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they didn't say they didn't give the

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status of the investigation

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they didn't say if there was a

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conclusion but they did say

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yes those are videos that have been in

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our position they were taken by

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say by members you know service members

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in the navy

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so i certainly don't think it was a hoax

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um

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okay but again we're not we don't have

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all

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the data that we'd like to have to be

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able to work with that

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because as i said when numerous

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journalists

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uh have asked the pentagon so

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are they classified as unidentified and

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susan goff has come back to a bunch of

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people repeatedly

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and said i have nothing more on you for

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this i've already told you what i can

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tell you

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so for all we know they're saying

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you know they're saying yep those are

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real videos all right they were taken by

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sailors all right

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we investigated those they might not be

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saying

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oh we're totally stumped or they might

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not be saying oh yeah we found out it

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was a weather balloon

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yeah you know until they say something

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like that

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then we don't know yeah i mean and to be

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fair it wasn't it's in a presentation

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so for all we know the context of it

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could be these are examples of something

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that look like

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uaps but are not

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yes it's a possibility yeah yeah we just

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don't know

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um but you know the one thing i think it

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you know and it's tangible i think they

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did create a little

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you know excitement as far as getting

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people involved and paying attention

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i just hope that when people do that

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they actually do something versus just

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watching it all

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you know what whether that be make a

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phone call

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or you know push out accurate

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information like stuff from yourself or

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um you know for the most part right

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but i mean i think that if we could all

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get that mentality and some of the

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observers and everything can kind of get

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involved maybe we can

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create something that can take this home

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um

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yeah the the two recent ones this this

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th

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stuff

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that particularly the nimitz one that

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was a long time ago most

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of those sailors the people who were

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involved are

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retired by this point and a lot of them

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didn't even go all the way to retirement

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because

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you know some people just serve four

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eight six years you know

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and and they get out so civilians feel a

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lot more free to come forward and talk

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about things trying to get somebody

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who's actually still in the service

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they're going to have to go ask

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permission and the answer is usually

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going to be no

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um almost always so that's a whole

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it might be a long time before we hear

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from any of the people

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uh from the ships that were in from the

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omaha on the other ship

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uh that were involved in that you think

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about

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uh alex who was just recently coming out

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so that's that's four years right

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no she was she was with favor right that

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was 2004.

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that's even longer and she was just

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starting at that point she uh

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in one of her interviews i remember

402
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saying that

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that was her first uh deployment

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after qualifying for carrier landings at

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takeoffs and

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you know she had been she had been

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flying before that but that was her

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first real

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active airwing work and favor had been

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around forever

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you know so he got out much sooner but i

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i think she was in for quite a while

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longer

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but now she's you know retired and moved

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on so

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yeah um have you

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taken a listen to her account at all i

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mean i guess she did something with npr

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um in a different news outlet

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what do you gather from that do you

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think does it

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to me it seems like she doesn't really

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want to do any of this

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you know like go out in the public and

425
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talk about this and everything she just

426
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doesn't seem like the type to

427
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to want that attention um so now

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you know follow her on twitter [\h__\h]

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she's uh

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she has said repeatedly that she

431
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never wanted to come talk about she she

432
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did talk about it

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she was grilled and had to file reports

434
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as soon as she landed

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as soon as they got back to san diego

436
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you know she had to do that she got

437
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summoned to washington multiple times

438
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and had to give testimony you know

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privately anonymously

440
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but as far as going public and doing all

441
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this stuff she said

442
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she never wanted to she still really

443
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doesn't want to

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but she's doing it because if there are

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other military members out there who

446
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are cautious about coming forward that

447
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she's trying to set an example

448
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and that's the only reason she's doing

449
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it but she she's she's

450
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i've heard her say several times now i'm

451
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so sick of being asked the same five

452
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questions over and over again

453
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you know yeah how would you not be

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especially on something that was so long

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ago

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like because personally you're probably

457
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over it by now a long time ago

458
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and you have to come back and rehash all

459
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this stuff with kind of the same

460
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information you had to begin with

461
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yeah and she was in the process of

462
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moving

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when she got called to go on 60 minutes

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and she said

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i'm relying on memories from a long time

466
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ago she she said i

467
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i do i took very careful notes i still

468
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have those notes

469
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i will share them with you when i can

470
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but they're in my quote

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her phrase ufo box and she has a picture

472
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of her closet with like 900 boxes

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stacked up

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and and that one's down at the bottom

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and it's like well until she finishes

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moving and gets everything i'm back

477
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sorry you know yeah that's a bad game

478
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with jingo right there

479
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exactly hey hey i just want to say to

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alex if you're listening by some chance

481
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at least you've got a ufo box i wish i

482
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had one

483
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yeah yeah true i have a ufo folder

484
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with uh yeah i've been going through

485
00:18:05,909 --> 00:18:02,720
those uh cia documents

486
00:18:06,710 --> 00:18:05,919
that greenwald got black fault there's a

487
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lot in there

488
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and there is like so much

489
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history there as far as dealing with

490
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sightings

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dealing with you know um people who are

492
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constantly harassing them about reports

493
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um and then some stuff that's pretty

494
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jaw-dropping

495
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um though the latest one i posted on

496
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twitter there it was

497
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really it was from the deputy assistant

498
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i think sex secretary of something

499
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i don't know but these are legit guys to

500
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and fro um you can look at their actual

501
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titles on the letter

502
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but they're talking about the threat

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being part psychological even

504
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and they even go as far as to say

505
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because people are reporting this stuff

506
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so often

507
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and this is maybe in the 50s i want to

508
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say

509
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they may be they may be prepared

510
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that's crazy and there are two

511
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professional people

512
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corresponding through this email but

513
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then that it went along the uh

514
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robertson panel so it's like what's true

515
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here

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you know like on the one hand they're

517
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doing the robertson panel on the other

518
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hand they

519
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you know are talking about some real

520
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serious stuff

521
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it's i guess that's their mo and i'm

522
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just really figuring it out for the

523
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first time

524
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how much of those documents are

525
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real how much got saved and wasn't lost

526
00:19:43,510 --> 00:19:41,600
uh that should provide more context over

527
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the years

528
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where one thing i know is they don't

529
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:47,919
sound like the conspiracy theorist

530
00:19:50,950 --> 00:19:49,679
well that the air force is a whole

531
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another problem of its own

532
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yeah but the all those documents

533
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:58,000
that i've been referred to where the cia

534
00:20:02,230 --> 00:19:59,679
was involved in questions like this

535
00:20:03,590 --> 00:20:02,240
way back in the day and how much they

536
00:20:07,029 --> 00:20:03,600
interacted

537
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with the pentagon with various elements

538
00:20:09,909 --> 00:20:08,799
you know those are open questions and

539
00:20:11,510 --> 00:20:09,919
there have been documents that were

540
00:20:14,310 --> 00:20:11,520
shown later to be forgeries

541
00:20:15,270 --> 00:20:14,320
that didn't come from there others were

542
00:20:20,710 --> 00:20:15,280
totally

543
00:20:22,630 --> 00:20:20,720
them in context and it's like

544
00:20:24,149 --> 00:20:22,640
well that could mean a couple different

545
00:20:26,870 --> 00:20:24,159
things right you know

546
00:20:29,110 --> 00:20:26,880
and how what do you want it to mean

547
00:20:30,310 --> 00:20:29,120
because i think that that always colors

548
00:20:33,029 --> 00:20:30,320
the conversation when you're doing

549
00:20:35,909 --> 00:20:33,039
research like this

550
00:20:37,350 --> 00:20:35,919
if you ever go through on john's site um

551
00:20:38,870 --> 00:20:37,360
and go look through all the cattle

552
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:38,880
mutilation documents that he has

553
00:20:43,750 --> 00:20:42,000
and there's a lot man the cia has a long

554
00:20:47,350 --> 00:20:43,760
and colorful history there

555
00:20:50,390 --> 00:20:47,360
you know and and most of it

556
00:20:52,870 --> 00:20:50,400
is blown up by ufologists and

557
00:20:54,310 --> 00:20:52,880
bloggers and on you know shows hosted by

558
00:20:55,270 --> 00:20:54,320
william shatner and things like that to

559
00:20:57,669 --> 00:20:55,280
make it look like

560
00:21:00,149 --> 00:20:57,679
the cia was waist deep in the whole

561
00:21:02,630 --> 00:21:00,159
thing with the cattle mutilations

562
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,640
they were a most of the time trying to

563
00:21:05,430 --> 00:21:04,240
find ways to avoid having to get

564
00:21:07,510 --> 00:21:05,440
involved

565
00:21:08,630 --> 00:21:07,520
and when they and they had a real good

566
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excuse

567
00:21:12,149 --> 00:21:10,559
because they didn't have jurisdiction to

568
00:21:14,230 --> 00:21:12,159
get involved unless

569
00:21:15,190 --> 00:21:14,240
it was an incident that took place on

570
00:21:17,669 --> 00:21:15,200
tribal land

571
00:21:18,870 --> 00:21:17,679
or federal land and most of this most

572
00:21:21,110 --> 00:21:18,880
that stuff took place

573
00:21:22,390 --> 00:21:21,120
on private ranch property so they didn't

574
00:21:23,750 --> 00:21:22,400
have jurisdiction they could immediately

575
00:21:27,029 --> 00:21:23,760
just go

576
00:21:28,630 --> 00:21:27,039
sorry yeah call the sheriff you know and

577
00:21:30,870 --> 00:21:28,640
in the rare cases where they did they

578
00:21:32,549 --> 00:21:30,880
did go and do some investigation

579
00:21:34,789 --> 00:21:32,559
but the background documents that john

580
00:21:36,310 --> 00:21:34,799
dug up you know it makes it look like

581
00:21:37,750 --> 00:21:36,320
they really weren't that enthusiastic

582
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:37,760
about it it's like do you want to be the

583
00:21:40,630 --> 00:21:38,880
guy whose career

584
00:21:41,710 --> 00:21:40,640
now is going to have the i invested the

585
00:21:49,190 --> 00:21:41,720
cattle mutilations

586
00:21:52,470 --> 00:21:50,950
one of the top most wanted killers in

587
00:21:53,350 --> 00:21:52,480
the country but you you stay on those

588
00:21:55,110 --> 00:21:53,360
cows phil

589
00:21:56,630 --> 00:21:55,120
man you got two bucks over there don't

590
00:21:57,750 --> 00:21:56,640
worry about them you get the cows over

591
00:21:59,350 --> 00:21:57,760
there the brown spots

592
00:21:59,700 --> 00:21:59,360
they ain't chocolate milk baby take it

593
00:22:02,149 --> 00:21:59,710
down

594
00:22:04,950 --> 00:22:02,159
[Laughter]

595
00:22:06,149 --> 00:22:04,960
um yeah but i kind of got that vibe too

596
00:22:09,990 --> 00:22:06,159
from looking at these

597
00:22:13,270 --> 00:22:10,000
cia papers regarding you know

598
00:22:15,029 --> 00:22:13,280
ufos and other correspondents

599
00:22:18,470 --> 00:22:15,039
it seems like they were kind of they

600
00:22:20,230 --> 00:22:18,480
were taking a lot of reports at first

601
00:22:22,390 --> 00:22:20,240
and somewhere in the 50s it just

602
00:22:24,070 --> 00:22:22,400
switched over to the air force

603
00:22:25,669 --> 00:22:24,080
everything's the air force all their

604
00:22:29,270 --> 00:22:25,679
responses was

605
00:22:33,350 --> 00:22:29,280
you know this is officially only

606
00:22:35,110 --> 00:22:33,360
up to the air force you know

607
00:22:36,549 --> 00:22:35,120
and you could tell so it kind of seemed

608
00:22:37,190 --> 00:22:36,559
to me like they were like yeah sure

609
00:22:40,230 --> 00:22:37,200
we'll take this

610
00:22:41,669 --> 00:22:40,240
on yeah this ain't real or whatever then

611
00:22:41,909 --> 00:22:41,679
they were like yeah you know we can't do

612
00:22:45,430 --> 00:22:41,919
it

613
00:22:47,990 --> 00:22:45,440
the air force really should but

614
00:22:49,270 --> 00:22:48,000
you know uh yeah there's look at this

615
00:22:52,070 --> 00:22:49,280
look at the report that

616
00:22:53,669 --> 00:22:52,080
we just got a preview of supposedly uh

617
00:22:57,190 --> 00:22:53,679
from the new york times

618
00:22:57,669 --> 00:22:57,200
and the mention of a little over 120

619
00:23:00,310 --> 00:22:57,679
different

620
00:23:03,510 --> 00:23:00,320
cases yeah that were being investigated

621
00:23:06,230 --> 00:23:03,520
you know how many of those 120 were navy

622
00:23:06,830 --> 00:23:06,240
120 you know how many were the air force

623
00:23:12,390 --> 00:23:06,840
wow

624
00:23:13,750 --> 00:23:12,400
does not talk about this and they still

625
00:23:15,350 --> 00:23:13,760
don't talk about it

626
00:23:18,630 --> 00:23:15,360
what is what do you think the odds are

627
00:23:20,149 --> 00:23:18,640
that that the aliens if they are aliens

628
00:23:21,270 --> 00:23:20,159
they just really they're like go navy

629
00:23:22,070 --> 00:23:21,280
and they like hanging around the navy

630
00:23:23,909 --> 00:23:22,080
but they're like oh

631
00:23:25,590 --> 00:23:23,919
[\h__\h] the air force and they don't even

632
00:23:27,590 --> 00:23:25,600
bother them or come here yeah

633
00:23:29,669 --> 00:23:27,600
no we wanted to we wanted to show

634
00:23:31,669 --> 00:23:29,679
ourselves like 60 years ago and you

635
00:23:34,870 --> 00:23:31,679
weren't having it so

636
00:23:38,549 --> 00:23:34,880
now you're coming we can't do it yet

637
00:23:40,470 --> 00:23:38,559
you know people talk about you know

638
00:23:42,630 --> 00:23:40,480
i don't know if anyone really truly

639
00:23:45,750 --> 00:23:42,640
believes

640
00:23:47,750 --> 00:23:45,760
like without evidence involved or or

641
00:23:50,149 --> 00:23:47,760
you know talking heads or anything i

642
00:23:53,510 --> 00:23:50,159
don't know that anyone truly believes

643
00:23:54,950 --> 00:23:53,520
that this could be foreign tech and i do

644
00:23:56,390 --> 00:23:54,960
think a lot of things are involved and

645
00:23:57,909 --> 00:23:56,400
some may be foreign tech

646
00:24:00,230 --> 00:23:57,919
but when i talk i just want to talk

647
00:24:01,830 --> 00:24:00,240
about the unknowns the unidentifieds

648
00:24:04,149 --> 00:24:01,840
i hate even when they include that in

649
00:24:05,750 --> 00:24:04,159
reports and stuff i don't care tell me

650
00:24:09,750 --> 00:24:05,760
what you have

651
00:24:12,470 --> 00:24:09,760
that's unidentified right

652
00:24:12,950 --> 00:24:12,480
no there there have been a ton of cases

653
00:24:14,950 --> 00:24:12,960
and

654
00:24:15,990 --> 00:24:14,960
i i've had to write about those in the

655
00:24:19,029 --> 00:24:16,000
past

656
00:24:22,149 --> 00:24:19,039
where there are unusual totally

657
00:24:25,269 --> 00:24:22,159
conventional things

658
00:24:27,750 --> 00:24:25,279
that can do some weird stuff we have uh

659
00:24:28,710 --> 00:24:27,760
publicly available unclassified videos

660
00:24:31,110 --> 00:24:28,720
of

661
00:24:33,430 --> 00:24:31,120
air force ships or air force planes

662
00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:33,440
coming and releasing swarms

663
00:24:37,110 --> 00:24:35,760
of literally hundreds upon hundreds of

664
00:24:38,470 --> 00:24:37,120
little tiny drones

665
00:24:40,470 --> 00:24:38,480
that go out and use artificial

666
00:24:43,350 --> 00:24:40,480
intelligence and form into a cloud

667
00:24:44,630 --> 00:24:43,360
and move off and attack a target in mass

668
00:24:47,029 --> 00:24:44,640
you know

669
00:24:47,909 --> 00:24:47,039
on the low tech end of things it's

670
00:24:49,750 --> 00:24:47,919
already it's

671
00:24:52,070 --> 00:24:49,760
absolutely confirmed that al qaeda has

672
00:24:55,110 --> 00:24:52,080
had a couple of says where they took

673
00:24:55,590 --> 00:24:55,120
small drones relatively small the kind

674
00:24:58,789 --> 00:24:55,600
you could

675
00:25:01,590 --> 00:24:58,799
buy at walmart sometimes and attached

676
00:25:03,909 --> 00:25:01,600
balloons to them so that they didn't

677
00:25:05,990 --> 00:25:03,919
have to use very much lift

678
00:25:07,750 --> 00:25:06,000
and could stay aloft for quite a while

679
00:25:10,070 --> 00:25:07,760
and they deployed those things at very

680
00:25:12,470 --> 00:25:10,080
low altitudes above the ground

681
00:25:13,669 --> 00:25:12,480
with explosives on them and successfully

682
00:25:15,830 --> 00:25:13,679
committed attacks with them

683
00:25:17,350 --> 00:25:15,840
that's low tech but it was also

684
00:25:18,470 --> 00:25:17,360
technically at the time

685
00:25:20,950 --> 00:25:18,480
nobody was looking for something like

686
00:25:22,230 --> 00:25:20,960
that that was a ufo until it blew up

687
00:25:24,549 --> 00:25:22,240
and they picked up the pieces you know

688
00:25:25,110 --> 00:25:24,559
right but no the stuff we're interested

689
00:25:28,070 --> 00:25:25,120
in

690
00:25:29,750 --> 00:25:28,080
that's none of that come on it's like

691
00:25:32,310 --> 00:25:29,760
don't even throw that in the mix

692
00:25:32,870 --> 00:25:32,320
because then you are muddying the waters

693
00:25:35,990 --> 00:25:32,880
yeah

694
00:25:37,750 --> 00:25:36,000
you know just i'm not trying to

695
00:25:39,350 --> 00:25:37,760
discredit anybody who says that there

696
00:25:40,549 --> 00:25:39,360
are things that are seen that aren't

697
00:25:42,789 --> 00:25:40,559
immediately identified

698
00:25:43,590 --> 00:25:42,799
that turn out to be something uh mundane

699
00:25:44,950 --> 00:25:43,600
conventional

700
00:25:47,190 --> 00:25:44,960
even something a little weird but

701
00:25:50,070 --> 00:25:47,200
certainly within our grasp

702
00:25:52,549 --> 00:25:50,080
you know absolutely that's the truth

703
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,559
right but then there's that one percent

704
00:25:55,990 --> 00:25:54,559
there's interesting in the one air force

705
00:25:58,870 --> 00:25:56,000
thing that i found

706
00:26:00,710 --> 00:25:58,880
um was you know somewhat like we're

707
00:26:01,750 --> 00:26:00,720
discussing a report on a certain number

708
00:26:05,669 --> 00:26:01,760
of instances

709
00:26:07,190 --> 00:26:05,679
i think it was maybe i don't remember it

710
00:26:10,310 --> 00:26:07,200
was over a thousand

711
00:26:13,110 --> 00:26:10,320
but 20 percent were

712
00:26:14,950 --> 00:26:13,120
unidentified unexplained at that time

713
00:26:16,950 --> 00:26:14,960
but that does also kind of make sense

714
00:26:18,230 --> 00:26:16,960
because it's a 50s less technology

715
00:26:20,630 --> 00:26:18,240
but i thought that was interesting

716
00:26:23,909 --> 00:26:20,640
because that's a that's a large

717
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:23,919
sum of unidentifieds and in the same

718
00:26:28,070 --> 00:26:24,960
time frame

719
00:26:31,510 --> 00:26:28,080
russia's having these things happen

720
00:26:32,470 --> 00:26:31,520
um and we are as well china just formed

721
00:26:36,830 --> 00:26:32,480
their own

722
00:26:39,750 --> 00:26:36,840
uh task force you know for unidentified

723
00:26:41,510 --> 00:26:39,760
aerial it's a different word

724
00:26:43,110 --> 00:26:41,520
they changed the word they changed the

725
00:26:44,390 --> 00:26:43,120
last word i forget but it's their own

726
00:26:46,390 --> 00:26:44,400
uap task force

727
00:26:49,750 --> 00:26:46,400
yeah so they say let's get real they've

728
00:26:51,669 --> 00:26:49,760
been looking at this forever

729
00:26:52,630 --> 00:26:51,679
such as us and i tend to think that

730
00:26:55,590 --> 00:26:52,640
they're going to be a little more

731
00:26:57,669 --> 00:26:55,600
planned out than us

732
00:26:58,870 --> 00:26:57,679
just because they seem to do that all

733
00:27:02,230 --> 00:26:58,880
the time these long

734
00:27:04,470 --> 00:27:02,240
outstretched plans 50-year plans

735
00:27:05,990 --> 00:27:04,480
you know oh yeah that's true and 50

736
00:27:09,029 --> 00:27:06,000
years ago hey

737
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,039
they were dealing with this

738
00:27:14,950 --> 00:27:12,240
well so were we you know uh

739
00:27:16,789 --> 00:27:14,960
if you remember when harry reid

740
00:27:21,430 --> 00:27:16,799
initially got the funding to set up atep

741
00:27:23,750 --> 00:27:21,440
back in 2012 whenever it was uh

742
00:27:24,549 --> 00:27:23,760
he had two other senators and i know the

743
00:27:28,310 --> 00:27:24,559
names are goodness

744
00:27:30,470 --> 00:27:28,320
uh one of them was uh in effect and

745
00:27:32,950 --> 00:27:30,480
who got a bipartisan thing together to

746
00:27:35,110 --> 00:27:32,960
push for the money and it was successful

747
00:27:36,310 --> 00:27:35,120
and one of the other senators who was

748
00:27:36,870 --> 00:27:36,320
close to retirement already at that

749
00:27:39,830 --> 00:27:36,880
point

750
00:27:41,029 --> 00:27:39,840
had been a world war ii pilot and he

751
00:27:44,070 --> 00:27:41,039
flew fighters in world war

752
00:27:45,990 --> 00:27:44,080
ii and he told harry reid and then

753
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:46,000
after he retired he told some reporters

754
00:27:49,269 --> 00:27:48,000
also one reason he jumped

755
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:49,279
right on there and said yeah i think we

756
00:27:53,110 --> 00:27:51,120
need to be looking out for this

757
00:27:54,630 --> 00:27:53,120
was because when he was in the war

758
00:27:57,190 --> 00:27:54,640
flying over europe

759
00:27:58,070 --> 00:27:57,200
he saw the foo fighters he saw him with

760
00:28:01,110 --> 00:27:58,080
his own eyes

761
00:28:02,950 --> 00:28:01,120
tracking along next to his plane and he

762
00:28:04,870 --> 00:28:02,960
and never had an explanation never

763
00:28:06,950 --> 00:28:04,880
talked about it and then

764
00:28:08,389 --> 00:28:06,960
the opportunity for a tape a tip came

765
00:28:10,870 --> 00:28:08,399
along and he was like

766
00:28:12,070 --> 00:28:10,880
oh yeah we got 22 million for this you

767
00:28:15,590 --> 00:28:12,080
go

768
00:28:16,070 --> 00:28:15,600
interesting yeah there's so many stories

769
00:28:18,310 --> 00:28:16,080
like that

770
00:28:20,149 --> 00:28:18,320
it would be nice to just get some truth

771
00:28:20,870 --> 00:28:20,159
in admission of what's real and what

772
00:28:24,310 --> 00:28:20,880
isn't

773
00:28:29,110 --> 00:28:24,320
uh hopefully hopefully we get that uh

774
00:28:30,870 --> 00:28:29,120
um soon you know i don't think that the

775
00:28:32,230 --> 00:28:30,880
i'm kind of torn on the report actually

776
00:28:33,029 --> 00:28:32,240
a part of me kind of thinks they'll

777
00:28:37,110 --> 00:28:33,039
throw something

778
00:28:42,230 --> 00:28:40,149
a part of me is like maybe they'll just

779
00:28:43,269 --> 00:28:42,240
do it with china and everything now

780
00:28:46,470 --> 00:28:43,279
that's kind of

781
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:46,480
changing the the game a little bit isn't

782
00:28:52,470 --> 00:28:46,880
it

783
00:28:53,990 --> 00:28:52,480
task force that's kind of like a

784
00:28:55,669 --> 00:28:54,000
challenge almost

785
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:55,679
the people we're waiting on a report

786
00:29:00,149 --> 00:28:58,320
from first of all let's keep in mind

787
00:29:01,909 --> 00:29:00,159
these are the same people who recently

788
00:29:02,870 --> 00:29:01,919
admitted if they're even telling the

789
00:29:04,710 --> 00:29:02,880
truth

790
00:29:07,190 --> 00:29:04,720
that they deleted all of luella's

791
00:29:10,230 --> 00:29:07,200
honda's emails

792
00:29:11,350 --> 00:29:10,240
a a guy that is in charge of the secret

793
00:29:13,830 --> 00:29:11,360
ufo program

794
00:29:15,110 --> 00:29:13,840
and oh by the way was running a whole

795
00:29:16,789 --> 00:29:15,120
run in an office that was taking care of

796
00:29:19,269 --> 00:29:16,799
a whole bunch of stuff at gitmo

797
00:29:21,430 --> 00:29:19,279
including the trial of khalid sheikh

798
00:29:25,029 --> 00:29:21,440
mohammed the 911 mastermind but yeah

799
00:29:28,149 --> 00:29:25,039
why would you keep that guys yeah [\h__\h]

800
00:29:28,710 --> 00:29:28,159
and so either they deleted something

801
00:29:31,510 --> 00:29:28,720
that they

802
00:29:33,029 --> 00:29:31,520
never should have deleted or they told

803
00:29:34,389 --> 00:29:33,039
journalists that they deleted it and

804
00:29:36,789 --> 00:29:34,399
they lied

805
00:29:37,750 --> 00:29:36,799
you know so take your pick uh so what

806
00:29:40,549 --> 00:29:37,760
are we gonna get

807
00:29:41,269 --> 00:29:40,559
um we saw the preview in the new york

808
00:29:44,470 --> 00:29:41,279
times

809
00:29:45,590 --> 00:29:44,480
now and to me i had set my expectations

810
00:29:47,669 --> 00:29:45,600
so low that i was like

811
00:29:48,870 --> 00:29:47,679
that looks pretty good all i really

812
00:29:50,470 --> 00:29:48,880
wanted out of

813
00:29:53,029 --> 00:29:50,480
up front for the first step and it's

814
00:29:55,590 --> 00:29:53,039
only a step was to say

815
00:29:56,789 --> 00:29:55,600
yep ufos are real nope we don't know

816
00:29:58,870 --> 00:29:56,799
what they are

817
00:29:59,830 --> 00:29:58,880
nope it's not our tech yeah and

818
00:30:02,070 --> 00:29:59,840
supposedly

819
00:30:03,830 --> 00:30:02,080
and and i mean that's a huge first step

820
00:30:07,190 --> 00:30:03,840
right it is gigantic and

821
00:30:09,269 --> 00:30:07,200
that's great that would be if that's

822
00:30:10,789 --> 00:30:09,279
every bit of what we got i would say so

823
00:30:12,710 --> 00:30:10,799
long as the work continues maybe

824
00:30:13,990 --> 00:30:12,720
there'll be another important six months

825
00:30:17,190 --> 00:30:14,000
that's a great first start

826
00:30:20,310 --> 00:30:17,200
congratulations my hat is off to you

827
00:30:22,870 --> 00:30:20,320
that that relies on a few assumptions

828
00:30:23,830 --> 00:30:22,880
it relies on number one that the new

829
00:30:26,389 --> 00:30:23,840
york times

830
00:30:27,590 --> 00:30:26,399
uh anonymous sources who provided this

831
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:27,600
information

832
00:30:34,549 --> 00:30:30,640
that they actually did see the report

833
00:30:36,389 --> 00:30:34,559
that and let's go ahead and say they did

834
00:30:38,230 --> 00:30:36,399
that they relayed the information

835
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:38,240
correctly accurately

836
00:30:41,909 --> 00:30:40,720
right and that the new york times is

837
00:30:43,590 --> 00:30:41,919
relaying the information

838
00:30:45,190 --> 00:30:43,600
they relayed and nothing was lost in

839
00:30:48,470 --> 00:30:45,200
translation

840
00:30:50,710 --> 00:30:48,480
um so we're relying on that and again

841
00:30:51,990 --> 00:30:50,720
the actual report that they saw assuming

842
00:30:53,590 --> 00:30:52,000
they did

843
00:30:55,430 --> 00:30:53,600
once again is coming from these same

844
00:30:57,509 --> 00:30:55,440
people we were just discussing

845
00:30:59,990 --> 00:30:57,519
how much transparent transparency and

846
00:31:01,350 --> 00:31:00,000
honesty you can expect from them

847
00:31:03,269 --> 00:31:01,360
let's just say that remains an open

848
00:31:04,310 --> 00:31:03,279
question yeah and i mean they already

849
00:31:07,190 --> 00:31:04,320
changed the headline

850
00:31:09,430 --> 00:31:07,200
so something's you know i know it's such

851
00:31:11,909 --> 00:31:09,440
a small thing but changing the headline

852
00:31:13,990 --> 00:31:11,919
is a big deal that's the first change

853
00:31:16,230 --> 00:31:14,000
they made was a huge deal

854
00:31:17,350 --> 00:31:16,240
yeah that's the first opportunity

855
00:31:20,549 --> 00:31:17,360
somebody has

856
00:31:23,750 --> 00:31:20,559
to either be interested or not and

857
00:31:25,830 --> 00:31:23,760
to me that headline was just written

858
00:31:27,909 --> 00:31:25,840
so people who are not interested and

859
00:31:30,630 --> 00:31:27,919
laugh at it can read that headline

860
00:31:32,710 --> 00:31:30,640
and continue to do so right you know if

861
00:31:34,070 --> 00:31:32,720
you saw the original headline

862
00:31:35,350 --> 00:31:34,080
are you going to click on that link if

863
00:31:36,470 --> 00:31:35,360
you're not somebody that's already

864
00:31:38,310 --> 00:31:36,480
interested in the subject

865
00:31:40,389 --> 00:31:38,320
maybe are they dealing with this the the

866
00:31:42,310 --> 00:31:40,399
government found that there was no

867
00:31:43,509 --> 00:31:42,320
evidence of uh connection to

868
00:31:46,630 --> 00:31:43,519
extraterrestrials

869
00:31:48,470 --> 00:31:46,640
so in in their head i'm just hearing

870
00:31:49,830 --> 00:31:48,480
them filling in the blank going

871
00:31:51,830 --> 00:31:49,840
uh it's probably ours the russians

872
00:31:52,789 --> 00:31:51,840
chinese whatever and i'm moving on to

873
00:31:54,950 --> 00:31:52,799
the sports section

874
00:31:56,789 --> 00:31:54,960
which probably a lot of people did and

875
00:32:00,310 --> 00:31:56,799
then they changed the headline

876
00:32:01,750 --> 00:32:00,320
to say but they also can't rule it out

877
00:32:03,350 --> 00:32:01,760
but by that time a lot of people had

878
00:32:05,350 --> 00:32:03,360
already clicked over the sports section

879
00:32:07,110 --> 00:32:05,360
isn't that interesting how that works it

880
00:32:09,350 --> 00:32:07,120
was convenience yes but then on the one

881
00:32:10,950 --> 00:32:09,360
hand new york times is seemingly such a

882
00:32:13,269 --> 00:32:10,960
proponent of transparency

883
00:32:14,470 --> 00:32:13,279
so it's kind of weird with uh leslie

884
00:32:17,430 --> 00:32:14,480
keane and

885
00:32:18,950 --> 00:32:17,440
blumenthal in the 2017 story they played

886
00:32:21,750 --> 00:32:18,960
a huge role in that

887
00:32:22,950 --> 00:32:21,760
depends which editor you get who you're

888
00:32:25,350 --> 00:32:22,960
working for

889
00:32:26,549 --> 00:32:25,360
does it change like that oh yeah the

890
00:32:28,149 --> 00:32:26,559
newsroom is

891
00:32:29,750 --> 00:32:28,159
has different personalities with

892
00:32:32,230 --> 00:32:29,760
different takes on things

893
00:32:32,870 --> 00:32:32,240
you know uh we've heard that we

894
00:32:35,110 --> 00:32:32,880
interviewed

895
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:35,120
uh ralph limonthal not too long ago and

896
00:32:38,230 --> 00:32:36,399
he was commenting on that

897
00:32:39,590 --> 00:32:38,240
because he has written for the new york

898
00:32:41,830 --> 00:32:39,600
times going back to

899
00:32:44,549 --> 00:32:41,840
the days of the pentagon papers you know

900
00:32:47,110 --> 00:32:44,559
and yeah a lot of stuff depends on

901
00:32:48,630 --> 00:32:47,120
who's on duty at the time you know which

902
00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:48,640
which editor gets a hold of it there are

903
00:32:51,669 --> 00:32:49,760
some people that are

904
00:32:53,430 --> 00:32:51,679
a lot more enthusiastic some people that

905
00:32:56,470 --> 00:32:53,440
are a lot less enthusiastic

906
00:32:57,590 --> 00:32:56,480
sure yeah they're human beings they they

907
00:32:59,990 --> 00:32:57,600
run the gamut

908
00:33:00,950 --> 00:33:00,000
and i would imagine this could be

909
00:33:03,990 --> 00:33:00,960
possible where

910
00:33:07,190 --> 00:33:04,000
whatever uh senators maybe don't

911
00:33:08,310 --> 00:33:07,200
want transparency perhaps maybe went to

912
00:33:10,230 --> 00:33:08,320
the new york times

913
00:33:11,590 --> 00:33:10,240
because they were reputable in our

914
00:33:14,389 --> 00:33:11,600
neighborhood

915
00:33:15,350 --> 00:33:14,399
and maybe went to a gullible person or

916
00:33:18,310 --> 00:33:15,360
something and

917
00:33:20,310 --> 00:33:18,320
yeah who knows that's like that's how

918
00:33:21,750 --> 00:33:20,320
you can drive yourself crazy is think of

919
00:33:23,430 --> 00:33:21,760
all the options though oh well they

920
00:33:25,909 --> 00:33:23,440
could be up to something

921
00:33:26,470 --> 00:33:25,919
when somebody's book comes out in 15

922
00:33:28,310 --> 00:33:26,480
years

923
00:33:31,669 --> 00:33:28,320
looking back on this when we're all

924
00:33:35,909 --> 00:33:31,679
riding around in tic tacs

925
00:33:42,630 --> 00:33:39,750
no thanks i'll be in the tic tac

926
00:33:43,350 --> 00:33:42,640
i won't care that's what they don't get

927
00:33:46,310 --> 00:33:43,360
if they just

928
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:46,320
drop the [\h__\h] on us like who cares about

929
00:33:50,950 --> 00:33:47,600
the past

930
00:33:53,110 --> 00:33:50,960
we got tic tacs now exactly

931
00:33:54,070 --> 00:33:53,120
and you know if it is aliens and i'm

932
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:54,080
still not saying it is

933
00:33:59,269 --> 00:33:57,279
aliens yeah if it is aliens and the the

934
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,279
wildest stories that we hear

935
00:34:02,630 --> 00:34:00,960
about stuff that the government is

936
00:34:04,470 --> 00:34:02,640
coming covering up

937
00:34:06,789 --> 00:34:04,480
my opinion from the beginning is you got

938
00:34:10,230 --> 00:34:06,799
an alien body back there somewhere

939
00:34:13,430 --> 00:34:10,240
roll it out just call a press conference

940
00:34:15,030 --> 00:34:13,440
roll it out inside of a nitrogen encased

941
00:34:17,909 --> 00:34:15,040
thing wherever you've been keeping it

942
00:34:20,230 --> 00:34:17,919
and go oh by the way sorry should have

943
00:34:21,270 --> 00:34:20,240
mentioned this earlier i guess here's

944
00:34:24,310 --> 00:34:21,280
the alien

945
00:34:26,550 --> 00:34:24,320
yeah we people will be able to handle it

946
00:34:28,310 --> 00:34:26,560
it's a weird universe we we discover new

947
00:34:31,109 --> 00:34:28,320
things all the time

948
00:34:33,109 --> 00:34:31,119
it's the 21st century if you think that

949
00:34:35,190 --> 00:34:33,119
most educated people haven't

950
00:34:36,710 --> 00:34:35,200
looked up at the skies you know for

951
00:34:37,750 --> 00:34:36,720
centuries really and said

952
00:34:39,589 --> 00:34:37,760
oh come on man there's got to be

953
00:34:40,950 --> 00:34:39,599
something else out there you know it's a

954
00:34:43,109 --> 00:34:40,960
gigantic universe

955
00:34:44,230 --> 00:34:43,119
you know and if you come out and say

956
00:34:45,510 --> 00:34:44,240
yeah some people are going to be a

957
00:34:47,030 --> 00:34:45,520
little pissed including me

958
00:34:48,710 --> 00:34:47,040
it's like you could have told us this in

959
00:34:51,430 --> 00:34:48,720
the 40s right but

960
00:34:53,109 --> 00:34:51,440
okay you wheel out the alien you go okay

961
00:34:54,710 --> 00:34:53,119
here's a video from the basement where

962
00:34:55,829 --> 00:34:54,720
we keep the wreck saucer

963
00:34:57,030 --> 00:34:55,839
we haven't been able to figure out what

964
00:34:58,069 --> 00:34:57,040
to do with the crap that's how we don't

965
00:35:00,710 --> 00:34:58,079
have ships like that

966
00:35:02,390 --> 00:35:00,720
but we can't make it work you know and

967
00:35:05,109 --> 00:35:02,400
that's where things stand

968
00:35:06,230 --> 00:35:05,119
and it would be over it's like ripping

969
00:35:08,069 --> 00:35:06,240
the bandage off

970
00:35:09,349 --> 00:35:08,079
you know it's like here you go and if

971
00:35:09,990 --> 00:35:09,359
they don't have any of that which i

972
00:35:12,230 --> 00:35:10,000
think is

973
00:35:13,349 --> 00:35:12,240
far more likely they probably don't know

974
00:35:15,030 --> 00:35:13,359
much more than we do

975
00:35:16,950 --> 00:35:15,040
except they got better films and better

976
00:35:18,870 --> 00:35:16,960
pictures and things like that right

977
00:35:20,390 --> 00:35:18,880
but if they don't know anything else

978
00:35:22,550 --> 00:35:20,400
then that's what

979
00:35:24,950 --> 00:35:22,560
sounds like they're preparing to tell us

980
00:35:28,069 --> 00:35:24,960
and if that turns out to be the truth

981
00:35:29,190 --> 00:35:28,079
which not a sure thing yet right um then

982
00:35:32,390 --> 00:35:29,200
as far as i'm concerned

983
00:35:32,870 --> 00:35:32,400
great thanks ufos are real not ours not

984
00:35:34,630 --> 00:35:32,880
russian

985
00:35:36,390 --> 00:35:34,640
not chinese we don't know where it comes

986
00:35:37,030 --> 00:35:36,400
from feel free to speculate in the

987
00:35:38,790 --> 00:35:37,040
meantime

988
00:35:40,150 --> 00:35:38,800
we'll keep collecting data and see if we

989
00:35:44,630 --> 00:35:40,160
can figure this [\h__\h] out

990
00:35:48,150 --> 00:35:44,640
yeah definitely because we actually care

991
00:35:49,910 --> 00:35:48,160
yes what this stuff is um

992
00:35:51,670 --> 00:35:49,920
yeah and a couple of the reports yeah

993
00:35:53,270 --> 00:35:51,680
from the 50s or whatever always just

994
00:35:55,510 --> 00:35:53,280
said we deem this thing not to be a

995
00:35:56,470 --> 00:35:55,520
national security threat so we're moving

996
00:35:58,069 --> 00:35:56,480
on basically

997
00:36:00,230 --> 00:35:58,079
right it's like who does that even if it

998
00:36:02,550 --> 00:36:00,240
is not a national security threat

999
00:36:04,790 --> 00:36:02,560
you have this thing potentially from a

1000
00:36:06,310 --> 00:36:04,800
dimension or outer space

1001
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:06,320
if it's not a threat that should make

1002
00:36:11,670 --> 00:36:08,000
you want to research it even

1003
00:36:13,990 --> 00:36:11,680
more and comfortably so

1004
00:36:15,270 --> 00:36:14,000
project sign project grudge project blue

1005
00:36:17,430 --> 00:36:15,280
book that's how

1006
00:36:18,310 --> 00:36:17,440
every one of them ended the content

1007
00:36:21,109 --> 00:36:18,320
report

1008
00:36:23,190 --> 00:36:21,119
it's like yeah we identified most of it

1009
00:36:25,349 --> 00:36:23,200
some we couldn't we're not really sure

1010
00:36:27,109 --> 00:36:25,359
but it doesn't seem like a threat and we

1011
00:36:29,109 --> 00:36:27,119
don't see that science is benefiting

1012
00:36:30,230 --> 00:36:29,119
from continuing to study this so we're

1013
00:36:31,990 --> 00:36:30,240
moving on

1014
00:36:33,430 --> 00:36:32,000
you know that that's really the answer

1015
00:36:35,750 --> 00:36:33,440
they've always defaulted to

1016
00:36:37,510 --> 00:36:35,760
and there's been a big fear i was

1017
00:36:38,150 --> 00:36:37,520
listening to micah hanks uh two weeks

1018
00:36:41,190 --> 00:36:38,160
ago

1019
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:41,200
and he was already predicting

1020
00:36:44,470 --> 00:36:42,880
that the report would be underwhelming

1021
00:36:45,109 --> 00:36:44,480
but he went down that list and he was

1022
00:36:48,550 --> 00:36:45,119
like

1023
00:36:50,150 --> 00:36:48,560
are we getting ready to see condom 2021

1024
00:36:52,069 --> 00:36:50,160
are they just going to come out and go

1025
00:36:53,750 --> 00:36:52,079
here's the stuff you asked for

1026
00:36:55,750 --> 00:36:53,760
we don't know what it is but it doesn't

1027
00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:55,760
look like a threat and we really

1028
00:36:58,069 --> 00:36:57,200
shouldn't be wasting taxpayer money on

1029
00:37:00,310 --> 00:36:58,079
this crap

1030
00:37:01,670 --> 00:37:00,320
yeah that i it doesn't sound any more to

1031
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,680
me like that's the case

1032
00:37:05,430 --> 00:37:03,599
i think it's a little better than that

1033
00:37:07,510 --> 00:37:05,440
but yeah again if you're waiting for e.t

1034
00:37:09,430 --> 00:37:07,520
to get wheeled out

1035
00:37:11,349 --> 00:37:09,440
i don't see that at some point they

1036
00:37:12,950 --> 00:37:11,359
gotta give us something because if you

1037
00:37:14,150 --> 00:37:12,960
add up all the years that they've

1038
00:37:16,230 --> 00:37:14,160
actually been studying this

1039
00:37:17,270 --> 00:37:16,240
and all the taxpayer money that's gone

1040
00:37:18,710 --> 00:37:17,280
to it

1041
00:37:20,550 --> 00:37:18,720
you gotta have something to show for

1042
00:37:23,109 --> 00:37:20,560
this

1043
00:37:24,630 --> 00:37:23,119
because it's you know it's not a small

1044
00:37:26,550 --> 00:37:24,640
amount of time that they've been doing

1045
00:37:28,550 --> 00:37:26,560
this

1046
00:37:31,190 --> 00:37:28,560
what if there really is nothing to show

1047
00:37:34,829 --> 00:37:31,200
what if we are just so far

1048
00:37:37,349 --> 00:37:34,839
technologically behind yeah who or

1049
00:37:39,510 --> 00:37:37,359
whatever is doing this crap

1050
00:37:41,109 --> 00:37:39,520
yeah that we can't lay a glove on them

1051
00:37:41,910 --> 00:37:41,119
and does that sound that unreasonable so

1052
00:37:45,030 --> 00:37:41,920
far

1053
00:37:48,230 --> 00:37:45,040
they might not unless

1054
00:37:49,190 --> 00:37:48,240
who or whatever came and intentionally

1055
00:37:50,310 --> 00:37:49,200
made contact

1056
00:37:52,069 --> 00:37:50,320
with somebody in the government or

1057
00:37:53,750 --> 00:37:52,079
somebody somewhere and if you if you

1058
00:37:55,910 --> 00:37:53,760
listen to the experiences

1059
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,920
uh the abductees and everything you're

1060
00:37:58,390 --> 00:37:57,839
gonna be sitting in there i know you're

1061
00:38:00,150 --> 00:37:58,400
yelling

1062
00:38:01,829 --> 00:38:00,160
at your laptop right now out there it's

1063
00:38:02,150 --> 00:38:01,839
like well they have and they're talking

1064
00:38:03,750 --> 00:38:02,160
to them

1065
00:38:06,230 --> 00:38:03,760
okay well that may be the case never

1066
00:38:08,710 --> 00:38:06,240
happened to me but could be

1067
00:38:09,670 --> 00:38:08,720
but unless they did talk to the

1068
00:38:12,790 --> 00:38:09,680
government and

1069
00:38:13,510 --> 00:38:12,800
gave them some information or some

1070
00:38:15,349 --> 00:38:13,520
technology

1071
00:38:17,030 --> 00:38:15,359
fell into the government's hands that

1072
00:38:19,190 --> 00:38:17,040
they could show us

1073
00:38:20,069 --> 00:38:19,200
they could really have nothing more than

1074
00:38:22,630 --> 00:38:20,079
just

1075
00:38:24,790 --> 00:38:22,640
better photos and videos maybe they've

1076
00:38:27,829 --> 00:38:24,800
been chasing them since the 40s

1077
00:38:29,589 --> 00:38:27,839
and what you know i i always keep this

1078
00:38:33,270 --> 00:38:29,599
this handy on my laptop

1079
00:38:34,950 --> 00:38:33,280
and for any of uh your viewers

1080
00:38:36,550 --> 00:38:34,960
who may never have heard it i will go

1081
00:38:38,710 --> 00:38:36,560
ahead and include it again one of my

1082
00:38:41,990 --> 00:38:38,720
favorite quotes from all of ufology

1083
00:38:45,430 --> 00:38:42,000
uh came from um

1084
00:38:47,349 --> 00:38:45,440
a guy named uh dr richard c henry

1085
00:38:49,230 --> 00:38:47,359
he was an astronomer for johns hopkins

1086
00:38:52,470 --> 00:38:49,240
university and back in

1087
00:38:53,190 --> 00:38:52,480
1977 he was debating this exact same

1088
00:38:54,950 --> 00:38:53,200
subject

1089
00:38:56,630 --> 00:38:54,960
and he said i wanted to read it because

1090
00:38:58,710 --> 00:38:56,640
i wanted to get it exactly correct

1091
00:38:59,990 --> 00:38:58,720
said i very much doubt that an

1092
00:39:03,430 --> 00:39:00,000
intellectually inferior

1093
00:39:04,870 --> 00:39:03,440
species can study an intellectually far

1094
00:39:09,030 --> 00:39:04,880
superior species

1095
00:39:12,230 --> 00:39:09,040
be studied

1096
00:39:14,069 --> 00:39:12,240
now he said that almost 50 years ago how

1097
00:39:15,910 --> 00:39:14,079
prescient was that and could that

1098
00:39:17,349 --> 00:39:15,920
be the situation we're dealing with

1099
00:39:19,829 --> 00:39:17,359
right now yeah

1100
00:39:20,550 --> 00:39:19,839
i mean i think that's an amazing point

1101
00:39:23,349 --> 00:39:20,560
you know it's

1102
00:39:23,829 --> 00:39:23,359
it's tech we can't figure out we know

1103
00:39:25,190 --> 00:39:23,839
it's

1104
00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:25,200
they don't want to show us they don't

1105
00:39:30,870 --> 00:39:27,599
want to talk to us every time we try to

1106
00:39:33,270 --> 00:39:30,880
do something they evade it

1107
00:39:34,870 --> 00:39:33,280
you know somehow shut down

1108
00:39:37,990 --> 00:39:34,880
communications or whatever

1109
00:39:39,109 --> 00:39:38,000
just zip out of the dimension just blend

1110
00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:39,119
out

1111
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:41,040
um you know that reminds me of something

1112
00:39:45,990 --> 00:39:42,960
chris mellon said on cnn

1113
00:39:46,390 --> 00:39:46,000
uh he that was kind of maybe we were

1114
00:39:50,550 --> 00:39:46,400
found

1115
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:50,560
first thing that he was talking about um

1116
00:39:58,950 --> 00:39:57,589
zoo animals like we're kind of like zoo

1117
00:40:00,230 --> 00:39:58,960
animals maybe they'll come and play and

1118
00:40:03,750 --> 00:40:00,240
pet with us but they're really not

1119
00:40:05,510 --> 00:40:03,760
interested in dumbasses like us

1120
00:40:06,870 --> 00:40:05,520
what was it that johnny l teddy once

1121
00:40:07,990 --> 00:40:06,880
said when was the last time that you

1122
00:40:09,750 --> 00:40:08,000
flew halfway

1123
00:40:12,630 --> 00:40:09,760
around the planet to teach algebra to a

1124
00:40:17,829 --> 00:40:15,050
uh well are our dreams included

1125
00:40:19,349 --> 00:40:17,839
[Laughter]

1126
00:40:21,270 --> 00:40:19,359
well dreams are included we're into a

1127
00:40:22,870 --> 00:40:21,280
whole new ballgame that's true

1128
00:40:24,309 --> 00:40:22,880
i mean that's a good way to look at it

1129
00:40:27,190 --> 00:40:24,319
so then if that's the case

1130
00:40:27,750 --> 00:40:27,200
like what can you do to actually if you

1131
00:40:30,710 --> 00:40:27,760
can't out

1132
00:40:32,950 --> 00:40:30,720
trick them or out thank them you i guess

1133
00:40:36,710 --> 00:40:32,960
you kind of have to just

1134
00:40:39,430 --> 00:40:36,720
sit and not know well you can keep

1135
00:40:41,030 --> 00:40:39,440
trying to collect data but i mean if we

1136
00:40:42,230 --> 00:40:41,040
really haven't gotten anywhere

1137
00:40:44,230 --> 00:40:42,240
if they're sitting on a whole bunch of

1138
00:40:46,470 --> 00:40:44,240
data i'm number one

1139
00:40:47,349 --> 00:40:46,480
pissed which we'd already known but

1140
00:40:50,069 --> 00:40:47,359
number two

1141
00:40:51,190 --> 00:40:50,079
we'll be happy and relieved as they

1142
00:40:53,910 --> 00:40:51,200
start sharing it with us

1143
00:40:55,589 --> 00:40:53,920
yeah so maybe there is more to know but

1144
00:40:57,109 --> 00:40:55,599
if there is nothing more to know then

1145
00:40:59,190 --> 00:40:57,119
are some of us going to have to kind of

1146
00:41:00,950 --> 00:40:59,200
eat crow a little bit and go maybe the

1147
00:41:03,190 --> 00:41:00,960
condo report guys were right you know

1148
00:41:04,230 --> 00:41:03,200
it's like if they were going to attack

1149
00:41:06,950 --> 00:41:04,240
us

1150
00:41:07,589 --> 00:41:06,960
they certainly could have done it by now

1151
00:41:09,190 --> 00:41:07,599
you know

1152
00:41:10,550 --> 00:41:09,200
and if they're not going to attack us

1153
00:41:12,309 --> 00:41:10,560
and they're not going to interact with

1154
00:41:13,910 --> 00:41:12,319
us then

1155
00:41:15,670 --> 00:41:13,920
they're basically part of the scenery

1156
00:41:16,470 --> 00:41:15,680
right if there's nothing you can do

1157
00:41:18,150 --> 00:41:16,480
about it

1158
00:41:20,390 --> 00:41:18,160
if you can't catch them you can't touch

1159
00:41:21,589 --> 00:41:20,400
them we need to get one of those tic

1160
00:41:22,710 --> 00:41:21,599
tacs and cut it open and see what the

1161
00:41:24,870 --> 00:41:22,720
hell is inside

1162
00:41:26,630 --> 00:41:24,880
yeah but if that's way beyond our

1163
00:41:28,470 --> 00:41:26,640
capability

1164
00:41:30,309 --> 00:41:28,480
i i guess we just start working harder

1165
00:41:31,430 --> 00:41:30,319
to develop more capabilities so we can

1166
00:41:33,270 --> 00:41:31,440
catch them

1167
00:41:34,710 --> 00:41:33,280
but then if you do that does that look

1168
00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:34,720
like the first shot in an intergalactic

1169
00:41:37,430 --> 00:41:35,520
war

1170
00:41:39,030 --> 00:41:37,440
that you're probably going to lose very

1171
00:41:40,950 --> 00:41:39,040
badly

1172
00:41:43,190 --> 00:41:40,960
yeah you know that's that's an

1173
00:41:45,829 --> 00:41:43,200
interesting thing to think about though

1174
00:41:46,390 --> 00:41:45,839
the fact that maybe they are telling the

1175
00:41:47,990 --> 00:41:46,400
truth

1176
00:41:49,510 --> 00:41:48,000
that they can't figure out what the hell

1177
00:41:52,230 --> 00:41:49,520
it is

1178
00:41:53,670 --> 00:41:52,240
and yeah and he can't really do anything

1179
00:41:57,270 --> 00:41:53,680
if that's the case

1180
00:41:59,190 --> 00:41:57,280
so yeah that's interesting but you know

1181
00:42:00,950 --> 00:41:59,200
again it just comes back to transparency

1182
00:42:03,030 --> 00:42:00,960
just be honest with your situation and

1183
00:42:07,829 --> 00:42:03,040
we'll accept it you know

1184
00:42:09,910 --> 00:42:07,839
but at this point if it is we don't know

1185
00:42:11,490 --> 00:42:09,920
and that's honest no one's gonna believe

1186
00:42:13,510 --> 00:42:11,500
no one's gonna believe it

1187
00:42:18,630 --> 00:42:13,520
[Laughter]

1188
00:42:22,150 --> 00:42:20,550
oh this is interesting uh do you think

1189
00:42:24,790 --> 00:42:22,160
they're acting as tricksters

1190
00:42:25,190 --> 00:42:24,800
or is it that they're just doing their

1191
00:42:28,150 --> 00:42:25,200
thing

1192
00:42:29,270 --> 00:42:28,160
and avoid us i assume we're not talking

1193
00:42:30,309 --> 00:42:29,280
about the government now we're back to

1194
00:42:32,550 --> 00:42:30,319
talking about whoever

1195
00:42:33,349 --> 00:42:32,560
whatever is flying around yeah there's a

1196
00:42:36,550 --> 00:42:33,359
question from

1197
00:42:37,190 --> 00:42:36,560
rodrigo yeah i i've heard the trickster

1198
00:42:41,030 --> 00:42:37,200
theory

1199
00:42:43,270 --> 00:42:41,040
um people that think of the phenomena

1200
00:42:44,230 --> 00:42:43,280
as being related to all sorts of

1201
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,240
different things

1202
00:42:47,349 --> 00:42:46,960
and very skin walker ranchy you know

1203
00:42:50,470 --> 00:42:47,359
yeah

1204
00:42:52,309 --> 00:42:50,480
and uh as opposed to people who

1205
00:42:54,550 --> 00:42:52,319
still tend to think of them more as

1206
00:42:57,510 --> 00:42:54,560
primarily just nuts and bolts but

1207
00:42:57,990 --> 00:42:57,520
nuts and bolts from a level of command

1208
00:43:02,550 --> 00:42:58,000
of physics

1209
00:43:05,430 --> 00:43:02,560
that we don't even have a grip on yet um

1210
00:43:07,430 --> 00:43:05,440
i don't even know if they're just

1211
00:43:09,109 --> 00:43:07,440
avoiding us because

1212
00:43:10,470 --> 00:43:09,119
avoiding implies intent this is a

1213
00:43:12,230 --> 00:43:10,480
conversation i've had with

1214
00:43:13,589 --> 00:43:12,240
quite a few people over the years every

1215
00:43:16,870 --> 00:43:13,599
time i hear somebody

1216
00:43:19,190 --> 00:43:16,880
speculating on okay let's just use the

1217
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:19,200
word aliens in case it's aliens okay

1218
00:43:22,390 --> 00:43:22,000
what the aliens want what they don't

1219
00:43:23,990 --> 00:43:22,400
want

1220
00:43:26,950 --> 00:43:24,000
what their intentions are what might

1221
00:43:28,870 --> 00:43:26,960
they do why would they be here

1222
00:43:30,790 --> 00:43:28,880
feel free to speculate all you like i've

1223
00:43:33,190 --> 00:43:30,800
engaged in it myself at times

1224
00:43:36,470 --> 00:43:33,200
but we're making a huge assumption

1225
00:43:39,190 --> 00:43:36,480
because that implies knowing intent

1226
00:43:40,230 --> 00:43:39,200
we don't know assuming they are aliens

1227
00:43:42,150 --> 00:43:40,240
we don't know

1228
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:42,160
how they evolved what conditions were

1229
00:43:45,349 --> 00:43:43,520
like there

1230
00:43:47,670 --> 00:43:45,359
we don't the evolutionary process they

1231
00:43:50,309 --> 00:43:47,680
went through to get where they are now

1232
00:43:50,870 --> 00:43:50,319
do they even have emotions do do they

1233
00:43:53,829 --> 00:43:50,880
understand

1234
00:43:54,950 --> 00:43:53,839
curiosity they these could just be

1235
00:43:56,550 --> 00:43:54,960
scientists that

1236
00:43:58,390 --> 00:43:56,560
are doing things that we're not at the

1237
00:44:00,150 --> 00:43:58,400
point where we could even grasp

1238
00:44:01,750 --> 00:44:00,160
what the why would be as to why they're

1239
00:44:03,670 --> 00:44:01,760
doing them yeah you know

1240
00:44:05,990 --> 00:44:03,680
we can't put ourselves in the place of a

1241
00:44:09,109 --> 00:44:06,000
totally non-human intelligence

1242
00:44:11,030 --> 00:44:09,119
and you know say well because if i was

1243
00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:11,040
there i'd be curious about this

1244
00:44:16,870 --> 00:44:14,160
well sure you would would they i don't

1245
00:44:22,710 --> 00:44:20,550
you can't live on venus sir

1246
00:44:23,670 --> 00:44:22,720
yeah that's that's a that's a great

1247
00:44:27,270 --> 00:44:23,680
point though

1248
00:44:29,829 --> 00:44:27,280
is uh whatever

1249
00:44:33,270 --> 00:44:29,839
is whatever this is if it's you know a

1250
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:37,270
we it may have a complete different way

1251
00:44:43,910 --> 00:44:40,800
of processing information

1252
00:44:46,630 --> 00:44:43,920
you know basically so

1253
00:44:47,670 --> 00:44:46,640
and yet again like just living or being

1254
00:44:49,510 --> 00:44:47,680
sustainable

1255
00:44:52,309 --> 00:44:49,520
you know that it assumes it's something

1256
00:44:54,470 --> 00:44:52,319
or somebody from out there

1257
00:44:55,990 --> 00:44:54,480
maybe it's something that evolved in

1258
00:44:58,150 --> 00:44:56,000
parallel with us right here that's

1259
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,160
really good and not being caught

1260
00:45:02,150 --> 00:45:00,079
you know there's the time travelers from

1261
00:45:04,710 --> 00:45:02,160
the future multi-dimensional universe

1262
00:45:06,390 --> 00:45:04,720
able to cross dimensions they they might

1263
00:45:07,910 --> 00:45:06,400
may not be coming very far at all they

1264
00:45:09,349 --> 00:45:07,920
may live right where we live except

1265
00:45:11,430 --> 00:45:09,359
they're in dimensions

1266
00:45:13,030 --> 00:45:11,440
four through seven yeah but they've just

1267
00:45:14,870 --> 00:45:13,040
popped into one through three

1268
00:45:16,870 --> 00:45:14,880
mm-hmm to check and see how we're doing

1269
00:45:19,990 --> 00:45:16,880
you know yeah there's a lot of

1270
00:45:22,550 --> 00:45:20,000
smart people who run that theory

1271
00:45:24,390 --> 00:45:22,560
um for instance i mean some of the main

1272
00:45:26,150 --> 00:45:24,400
players like lou elizondo and sean

1273
00:45:30,710 --> 00:45:26,160
cahill recommend the book

1274
00:45:32,710 --> 00:45:30,720
uh chains of the sea to read and that

1275
00:45:34,630 --> 00:45:32,720
you know there's some of that in there

1276
00:45:36,950 --> 00:45:34,640
too um

1277
00:45:38,550 --> 00:45:36,960
in different dimensions and stuff and

1278
00:45:41,910 --> 00:45:38,560
your visual spectrum

1279
00:45:43,510 --> 00:45:41,920
can only see so much i'm just expecting

1280
00:45:45,510 --> 00:45:43,520
when things start breaking down and i

1281
00:45:50,630 --> 00:45:45,520
start running into stuff i can't see

1282
00:45:52,230 --> 00:45:50,640
you know the dimensional layer is just

1283
00:45:53,910 --> 00:45:52,240
something pops through just at the

1284
00:45:54,870 --> 00:45:53,920
moment you're backing your car out of

1285
00:45:56,550 --> 00:45:54,880
the driveway

1286
00:45:58,950 --> 00:45:56,560
are you in the crash are you happy to

1287
00:46:03,990 --> 00:46:02,150
what the hell oh man do i have to

1288
00:46:05,670 --> 00:46:04,000
remember some lizard man gets out

1289
00:46:07,750 --> 00:46:05,680
is that considered a hit and drive if

1290
00:46:09,589 --> 00:46:07,760
it's uh from a different galaxy or

1291
00:46:12,790 --> 00:46:09,599
dimension

1292
00:46:15,510 --> 00:46:12,800
a hit and run i mean it's a lizard

1293
00:46:18,950 --> 00:46:15,520
person he doesn't even goddamn license

1294
00:46:19,990 --> 00:46:18,960
you know she's a galactic felony

1295
00:46:21,510 --> 00:46:20,000
all right think of one more good

1296
00:46:22,710 --> 00:46:21,520
question sir i hate to do this but i'm

1297
00:46:26,150 --> 00:46:22,720
running out of runway here

1298
00:46:29,190 --> 00:46:26,160
no that's problem uh not a problem um

1299
00:46:33,829 --> 00:46:29,200
let's see

1300
00:46:39,589 --> 00:46:36,870
what do you want

1301
00:46:40,710 --> 00:46:39,599
from a disclosure of an another

1302
00:46:47,030 --> 00:46:40,720
intelligence what do you want

1303
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:50,309
from a confirmation

1304
00:46:56,870 --> 00:46:54,000
yeah i mean you're asking what i

1305
00:46:58,069 --> 00:46:56,880
want is in terms of disclosure from the

1306
00:47:01,109 --> 00:46:58,079
government or

1307
00:47:03,109 --> 00:47:01,119
what do i want in my life that would

1308
00:47:06,710 --> 00:47:03,119
come as a result of disclosure

1309
00:47:10,390 --> 00:47:06,720
happening the latter well

1310
00:47:13,109 --> 00:47:10,400
in the long run i think okay let's do a

1311
00:47:16,950 --> 00:47:14,950
i i think i would have more trust in the

1312
00:47:20,069 --> 00:47:16,960
government i think

1313
00:47:22,230 --> 00:47:20,079
um the whole world and i'm not going to

1314
00:47:23,589 --> 00:47:22,240
go well sunshine and roses and buy

1315
00:47:27,430 --> 00:47:23,599
everybody a coke

1316
00:47:30,150 --> 00:47:27,440
but i think an understanding

1317
00:47:32,710 --> 00:47:30,160
that we're not alone and having some

1318
00:47:35,589 --> 00:47:32,720
sort of confirmation of that

1319
00:47:36,069 --> 00:47:35,599
would start a new conversation that

1320
00:47:38,549 --> 00:47:36,079
between

1321
00:47:40,630 --> 00:47:38,559
us that's very long overdue and i would

1322
00:47:43,829 --> 00:47:40,640
like to see that happen

1323
00:47:47,030 --> 00:47:43,839
um maybe a better

1324
00:47:48,870 --> 00:47:47,040
underst we tend in science

1325
00:47:50,390 --> 00:47:48,880
to sometimes not look for answers to

1326
00:47:51,990 --> 00:47:50,400
things when we don't realize there's a

1327
00:47:55,109 --> 00:47:52,000
thing to find

1328
00:47:56,790 --> 00:47:55,119
if we find out that oh

1329
00:47:58,230 --> 00:47:56,800
trans-dimensional stuff is definitely

1330
00:48:00,309 --> 00:47:58,240
possible you know

1331
00:48:01,349 --> 00:48:00,319
or faster than light you know using

1332
00:48:03,829 --> 00:48:01,359
quantum entanglement

1333
00:48:05,670 --> 00:48:03,839
something like that you know if we have

1334
00:48:06,870 --> 00:48:05,680
a real world example

1335
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,880
then we have some eggheads that are

1336
00:48:10,069 --> 00:48:08,880
going to get to work and start seriously

1337
00:48:10,870 --> 00:48:10,079
banging away at that until they figure

1338
00:48:12,309 --> 00:48:10,880
it out

1339
00:48:14,230 --> 00:48:12,319
might not be for a few years might not

1340
00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:14,240
be for a couple centuries but they'll be

1341
00:48:16,870 --> 00:48:14,960
working on it

1342
00:48:19,109 --> 00:48:16,880
so i think those are things i would like

1343
00:48:19,990 --> 00:48:19,119
to see in the short term that change in

1344
00:48:24,630 --> 00:48:20,000
the conversation

1345
00:48:26,710 --> 00:48:24,640
change in attitudes in the long run

1346
00:48:28,390 --> 00:48:26,720
overlapping with the let's get this new

1347
00:48:31,030 --> 00:48:28,400
technology

1348
00:48:32,790 --> 00:48:31,040
that's a double-edged sword that i'm

1349
00:48:34,630 --> 00:48:32,800
always afraid of you can ask mike

1350
00:48:36,069 --> 00:48:34,640
at singularity lab that you just

1351
00:48:38,950 --> 00:48:36,079
interviewed recently

1352
00:48:40,309 --> 00:48:38,960
he and i share a common fascination with

1353
00:48:43,510 --> 00:48:40,319
doom porn

1354
00:48:46,150 --> 00:48:43,520
and it's like tech

1355
00:48:49,430 --> 00:48:46,160
really really killer technology could be

1356
00:48:51,990 --> 00:48:49,440
literally killer and

1357
00:48:52,549 --> 00:48:52,000
that sort of thing is very high on my

1358
00:48:55,190 --> 00:48:52,559
lit

1359
00:48:57,190 --> 00:48:55,200
list of the most likely ways that we're

1360
00:48:58,470 --> 00:48:57,200
going to wipe ourselves out and i

1361
00:48:59,829 --> 00:48:58,480
have a high degree of confidence we're

1362
00:49:03,270 --> 00:48:59,839
going to wipe ourselves out i believe

1363
00:49:05,190 --> 00:49:03,280
the great filter is a real thing and

1364
00:49:06,710 --> 00:49:05,200
we're either going to develop artificial

1365
00:49:08,309 --> 00:49:06,720
intelligence to the point where it wakes

1366
00:49:09,910 --> 00:49:08,319
up and realizes that we're not terribly

1367
00:49:12,069 --> 00:49:09,920
useful

1368
00:49:15,349 --> 00:49:12,079
nanobots that are self-replicating and

1369
00:49:17,349 --> 00:49:15,359
suddenly just consume the whole world

1370
00:49:19,750 --> 00:49:17,359
genetic engineering that we're already

1371
00:49:23,190 --> 00:49:19,760
playing we have garage crisper out there

1372
00:49:26,630 --> 00:49:23,200
people with 500 bucks are doing genetic

1373
00:49:28,790 --> 00:49:26,640
engineering experiments look up garage

1374
00:49:32,390 --> 00:49:28,800
crisper after the after the interview

1375
00:49:34,150 --> 00:49:32,400
oh my god crisper c-r-i-s-p-r

1376
00:49:35,910 --> 00:49:34,160
that that's technology that has made

1377
00:49:39,270 --> 00:49:35,920
gene editing really easy

1378
00:49:41,349 --> 00:49:39,280
and amazingly available to the public

1379
00:49:42,549 --> 00:49:41,359
and god only knows the first person

1380
00:49:43,270 --> 00:49:42,559
that's going to cook up something that's

1381
00:49:46,630 --> 00:49:43,280
that's going to make

1382
00:49:49,190 --> 00:49:46,640
covid look like a mild winter cold

1383
00:49:52,150 --> 00:49:49,200
and just unleash it you know but the

1384
00:49:55,109 --> 00:49:52,160
list goes on so do we want to get

1385
00:49:56,150 --> 00:49:55,119
that super cool technology from a

1386
00:49:58,150 --> 00:49:56,160
potential

1387
00:49:59,349 --> 00:49:58,160
non-human intelligence that's a thousand

1388
00:50:01,270 --> 00:49:59,359
years ahead of us

1389
00:50:02,870 --> 00:50:01,280
who somehow managed to not wipe

1390
00:50:04,390 --> 00:50:02,880
themselves out

1391
00:50:06,150 --> 00:50:04,400
like where do they get the energy to

1392
00:50:08,069 --> 00:50:06,160
power those craft one of the number

1393
00:50:09,589 --> 00:50:08,079
not one of the leading contenders zero

1394
00:50:11,670 --> 00:50:09,599
point energy anybody who doesn't know

1395
00:50:14,870 --> 00:50:11,680
about zero point just go google it

1396
00:50:17,190 --> 00:50:14,880
but it's also it's been widely widely

1397
00:50:19,510 --> 00:50:17,200
speculated by people far smarter than me

1398
00:50:21,109 --> 00:50:19,520
that if we actually do crack the secret

1399
00:50:23,270 --> 00:50:21,119
of zero point energy

1400
00:50:25,589 --> 00:50:23,280
humanity and most of this planet

1401
00:50:27,190 --> 00:50:25,599
probably has six months to a year tops

1402
00:50:29,109 --> 00:50:27,200
because as soon as it gets into the

1403
00:50:29,990 --> 00:50:29,119
wrong hands once you have zero point

1404
00:50:33,829 --> 00:50:30,000
energy

1405
00:50:37,349 --> 00:50:33,839
latte starbucks cup

1406
00:50:39,030 --> 00:50:37,359
of coffee to evaporate a third of the

1407
00:50:41,990 --> 00:50:39,040
world's oceans

1408
00:50:43,349 --> 00:50:42,000
you know so you only use tiny tiny

1409
00:50:44,710 --> 00:50:43,359
little bits of it at one time

1410
00:50:47,030 --> 00:50:44,720
and somebody gets a hold of more than

1411
00:50:48,710 --> 00:50:47,040
that and somebody's like well i'm just

1412
00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:48,720
waiting to bring on you know the second

1413
00:50:52,630 --> 00:50:50,480
coming or yeah

1414
00:50:54,069 --> 00:50:52,640
you know whatever it's a great point

1415
00:50:56,790 --> 00:50:54,079
gone it's a great point

1416
00:50:58,069 --> 00:50:56,800
i mean as much as it makes life easier

1417
00:51:00,069 --> 00:50:58,079
it also

1418
00:51:02,309 --> 00:51:00,079
you know can do the same thing as far as

1419
00:51:03,270 --> 00:51:02,319
the evil aspect and and make things

1420
00:51:06,150 --> 00:51:03,280
easier

1421
00:51:07,910 --> 00:51:06,160
as far as doing bad so i've always been

1422
00:51:08,950 --> 00:51:07,920
a luddite my friend i've always been a

1423
00:51:12,230 --> 00:51:08,960
luddite because

1424
00:51:15,030 --> 00:51:12,240
every great technological advancement

1425
00:51:16,390 --> 00:51:15,040
going all the way back to the first

1426
00:51:19,430 --> 00:51:16,400
metal plows

1427
00:51:21,349 --> 00:51:19,440
you know going up through the iron age

1428
00:51:23,750 --> 00:51:21,359
through the industrial age

1429
00:51:24,470 --> 00:51:23,760
the nuclear age all that stuff the

1430
00:51:27,030 --> 00:51:24,480
internet

1431
00:51:28,950 --> 00:51:27,040
that's one of the biggest offenders

1432
00:51:31,990 --> 00:51:28,960
every great advancement we've had

1433
00:51:33,030 --> 00:51:32,000
has created a cascading larger number of

1434
00:51:35,589 --> 00:51:33,040
series of problems

1435
00:51:37,270 --> 00:51:35,599
that we none need new innovations to

1436
00:51:38,309 --> 00:51:37,280
solve those problems the new innovations

1437
00:51:40,790 --> 00:51:38,319
cause more problems

1438
00:51:41,910 --> 00:51:40,800
it's been going on forever so yeah count

1439
00:51:44,069 --> 00:51:41,920
me with the luddites

1440
00:51:45,829 --> 00:51:44,079
yeah no i'm i'm right with you i'm a

1441
00:51:47,990 --> 00:51:45,839
huge proponent that

1442
00:51:49,910 --> 00:51:48,000
you know no one's going to really get or

1443
00:51:52,390 --> 00:51:49,920
like this probably but that technology

1444
00:51:54,630 --> 00:51:52,400
destroyed the music industry

1445
00:51:56,710 --> 00:51:54,640
sure you know should have just been

1446
00:51:58,870 --> 00:51:56,720
instruments and making vinyls

1447
00:52:00,069 --> 00:51:58,880
but once spotify came around they took

1448
00:52:03,750 --> 00:52:00,079
any possibility of

1449
00:52:05,510 --> 00:52:03,760
any money away from all out artists

1450
00:52:07,030 --> 00:52:05,520
too because everybody expects to get

1451
00:52:10,150 --> 00:52:07,040
everything for free

1452
00:52:10,950 --> 00:52:10,160
so why would you bother paying any more

1453
00:52:13,270 --> 00:52:10,960
authors

1454
00:52:15,349 --> 00:52:13,280
and you hit you know three one cent one

1455
00:52:19,990 --> 00:52:15,359
penny a play or one tenth of a cent

1456
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:20,000
for every play if you're lucky it's like

1457
00:52:23,930 --> 00:52:22,960
so here i am on a ufo show making ufo

1458
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:23,940
songs and

1459
00:52:28,950 --> 00:52:27,200
[Laughter]

1460
00:52:30,309 --> 00:52:28,960
all right brother it could be worse man

1461
00:52:33,190 --> 00:52:30,319
yeah no i am uh

1462
00:52:35,190 --> 00:52:33,200
actually very happy so some things just

1463
00:52:37,510 --> 00:52:35,200
happen to you that you don't get

1464
00:52:38,309 --> 00:52:37,520
but at the end of the day uh you're

1465
00:52:41,190 --> 00:52:38,319
grateful

1466
00:52:43,750 --> 00:52:41,200
and and that's where i'm at so any

1467
00:52:46,790 --> 00:52:43,760
parting words sir

1468
00:52:48,390 --> 00:52:46,800
no not really um

1469
00:52:50,309 --> 00:52:48,400
you want to follow me on twitter i'm at

1470
00:52:53,750 --> 00:52:50,319
jazz shaw all one word

1471
00:52:55,109 --> 00:52:53,760
uh i would do that i you know it's not

1472
00:52:56,069 --> 00:52:55,119
all ufo stuff there's gonna be a lot of

1473
00:53:00,630 --> 00:52:56,079
stuff about drinking

1474
00:53:03,910 --> 00:53:00,640
pets yeah so

1475
00:53:07,670 --> 00:53:03,920
be warned in advance um other than that

1476
00:53:09,109 --> 00:53:07,680
stop by uh the underdog find celebrity

1477
00:53:12,390 --> 00:53:09,119
review with their new logo

1478
00:53:13,589 --> 00:53:12,400
and uh and the singularity because i pop

1479
00:53:15,430 --> 00:53:13,599
up there

1480
00:53:16,870 --> 00:53:15,440
fairly often and that's when i am

1481
00:53:18,069 --> 00:53:16,880
talking about interesting stuff that

1482
00:53:20,950 --> 00:53:18,079
you'd actually care about

1483
00:53:21,270 --> 00:53:20,960
if you watch this show but other than

1484
00:53:22,950 --> 00:53:21,280
that

1485
00:53:24,309 --> 00:53:22,960
you know i don't really do facebook or

1486
00:53:27,270 --> 00:53:24,319
any of the other platforms so

1487
00:53:28,470 --> 00:53:27,280
you know i don't either i don't either

1488
00:53:29,910 --> 00:53:28,480
most of the time i'm out in the front

1489
00:53:33,030 --> 00:53:29,920
yard yelling at clouds or

1490
00:53:33,910 --> 00:53:33,040
kids to get off my lawn you know so fair

1491
00:53:36,150 --> 00:53:33,920
enough

1492
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:36,160
uh well thanks rodrigo i agree we had a

1493
00:53:40,470 --> 00:53:36,960
great chat

1494
00:53:42,790 --> 00:53:40,480
uh it's always nice to talk to jazz and

1495
00:53:46,790 --> 00:53:42,800
go follow him on twitter um he'll make

1496
00:53:52,549 --> 00:53:50,230
over and out have a good one thanks

1497
00:53:53,990 --> 00:53:52,559
all right that was another fantastic

1498
00:53:57,109 --> 00:53:54,000
episode with mr

1499
00:54:00,549 --> 00:53:57,119
jaz shaw uh dolphin

1500
00:54:03,190 --> 00:54:00,559
extraordinaire um

1501
00:54:03,910 --> 00:54:03,200
i really enjoy talking to him because he

1502
00:54:06,230 --> 00:54:03,920
he brings

1503
00:54:07,349 --> 00:54:06,240
a very level-headed perspective backed

1504
00:54:10,150 --> 00:54:07,359
with history

1505
00:54:12,549 --> 00:54:10,160
and i think that's uh very important

1506
00:54:15,030 --> 00:54:12,559
right now because we can't

1507
00:54:15,750 --> 00:54:15,040
you know you can't just lean all on

1508
00:54:19,430 --> 00:54:15,760
history

1509
00:54:22,950 --> 00:54:19,440
and just be sucked into jaded

1510
00:54:25,750 --> 00:54:22,960
and and weak but you also

1511
00:54:29,190 --> 00:54:25,760
have to look at the history to let it

1512
00:54:30,870 --> 00:54:29,200
kind of guide you for future situations

1513
00:54:33,990 --> 00:54:30,880
you know what happened before how did

1514
00:54:37,190 --> 00:54:34,000
this go do something different this time

1515
00:54:40,710 --> 00:54:37,200
if we don't learn from history

1516
00:54:44,150 --> 00:54:42,309
and i believe we're growing and we're

1517
00:54:44,950 --> 00:54:44,160
learning and that's why we're here right

1518
00:54:47,990 --> 00:54:44,960
now

1519
00:54:49,990 --> 00:54:48,000
on the cusp of

1520
00:54:51,510 --> 00:54:50,000
uh some amazing stuff that i don't think

1521
00:54:52,950 --> 00:54:51,520
is going to go down like any of us

1522
00:54:54,390 --> 00:54:52,960
expect

1523
00:54:57,109 --> 00:54:54,400
but i still think we should be ready for

1524
00:55:01,829 --> 00:54:57,119
something great with that

1525
00:55:05,190 --> 00:55:01,839
being said i'll see you tomorrow for ufo

1526
00:55:08,710 --> 00:55:05,200
trivia so come bring your brains

1527
00:55:11,430 --> 00:55:08,720
we're gonna ask some ufo questions

1528
00:55:13,270 --> 00:55:11,440
and the winner gets nothing but they do

1529
00:55:15,349 --> 00:55:13,280
win

1530
00:55:16,309 --> 00:55:15,359
all right see you guys uh thanks so much

1531
00:55:18,470 --> 00:55:16,319
for watching

1532
00:55:19,829 --> 00:55:18,480
and supporting anything you can do to

1533
00:55:21,270 --> 00:55:19,839
spread the word to other people that'd

1534
00:55:24,870 --> 00:55:21,280
be great if you like what i do

1535
00:55:27,030 --> 00:55:24,880
i like doing it too um

1536
00:55:28,549 --> 00:55:27,040
but uh yeah i'll see you guys tomorrow

1537
00:55:30,549 --> 00:55:28,559
for trivia and

1538
00:55:31,589 --> 00:55:30,559
have a great day don't lose yourself to

1539
00:55:33,670 --> 00:55:31,599
this

1540
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,680
you know take some time think about it

1541
00:55:38,390 --> 00:55:35,359
and then maybe just put it aside

1542
00:55:40,470 --> 00:55:38,400
go outside go for a walk enjoy yourself

1543
00:55:41,430 --> 00:55:40,480
because it can really you know this

1544
00:55:43,990 --> 00:55:41,440
topic

1545
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:44,000
is never ending as far as possibilities

1546
00:55:48,150 --> 00:55:46,160
and where your thoughts can go so

1547
00:55:49,829 --> 00:55:48,160
it's important to take a break and with

1548
00:56:02,290 --> 00:55:49,839
that

1549
00:56:28,829 --> 00:56:02,300
we'll see you tomorrow

1550
00:56:42,829 --> 00:56:28,839
[Music]

1551
00:56:42,839 --> 00:56:49,560
so